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Paul Gilbert worked at MacNeill Press Ltd in London in the heyday of vinyl albums, the early–mid 1970s.
RareRecordCollector.net has interviewed him for his recollections of working at MacNeill’s and also obtained some fascinating insights into the sounds, sights and smells of a commercial record sleeve print company…complete with a superb reminiscence of Led Zeppelin turning up one day…!
1. Paul, you joined MacNeill Press Ltd in 1972 as an apprentice. How old were you when you started? Can you remember the amount of your first pay check?
Yep, I was just 16, a fresh-faced boy from Surrey, not prepared for the harsh East End life! I started in June ‘72 on probation, on the day shift 8am-5pm. I signed my 5 year indenture papers on 7/7/72 with my late father and he said: “There you go boy, they own you for five years now!”. My weekly wage was £7 before tax.
To get to London Bridge on the tube from Morden was 50p return and 10p each way on the bus from North Cheam. One thing I would say is that the walk from London Bridge station was interesting! The area was alive despite the bomb sites, and the general dilapidation.
As you came out of the station and headed towards Bermondsey St, you went past Gonzalez Byass Sherry. They used to store huge barrels under the train arches and the air was about 80% proof! You then staggered off and on your right you had Tate and Lyle Sugar refinery, the air around here was sickly sweet. Walking up Bermondsey St there was a flag makers on the left with the Sarson’s Vinegar factory behind it. That too smelt awful. But to top everything were the tanners around the Leathermarket area, this area really smelt as they cured the hides in manure and shit! You could always smell the guys that worked there before you saw them, they had thick aprons on with wellington boots and their clothes and jeans were normally in tatters. All this was before you got into work!
Not the place to be walking around if you had a hangover!!
2. So, where was MacNeill Press situated and can you describe the building?
2 Newhams Row, 175 Bermondsey Street, London SE1. (see photo, MacNeills was the white building about 50 yards down on the left hand side).
The factory entrance was down Newhams Row on the left. As you went in we had a clocking-in machine on the right, stairs in front. The ground floor was the paper warehouse. The basement housed the letterpress machines that used to print and cut out the finished album sleeve shapes. We had Heidelberg, platens, cylinders and Miehle Vertical presses. On the 1st floor was the litho printing presses, which was where I worked. On the 2nd floor was the bindery, and the top floor was where the compositors were and where any hand finishing took place. Reception was over the road in a separate building with the offices.
The factory used to be an old sail loft. When I first started as an apprentice, I was told to clear out the attic. I found a load of thick needles they used to sew the sails with and the metal cupped gloves they used to push the needles through the canvas. One of the guys who worked there said his gran worked there sewing sails, but they could only do it for about 8-10 years because the work was so tough and caused arthritis in their hands.
3. Did you find any interesting record sleeve stuff in the attic, too?
Oh yes…Rolling Stones EP artwork and printing plates, Elvis artwork and plates, blocks for the presses, concert stuff from the 60s…we just threw it all out! It’s worth a fortune now! And we found loads of rats too, big problem back then.
4. Was it just record sleeves you printed or were there other commercial jobs too?
Yes, we also printed all the inserts for albums, words and books for operas, small posters, EP covers, some 45 sleeves (mainly for Warner Bros) and general items for the music industry.
5. MacNeill Press Limited was founded in 1946 and dissolved in 1995. Do you know how and when the company came to be owned by Polish family?
I understand they bought the name ‘off the shelf’ but as an apprentice you do not get to speak to ‘management’ types! Most of the staff were Polish WW2 veterans, ex-army or RAF and couldn’t get back to Poland because of the Iron Curtain. They wore their medals on Independence Day, 11th November. They had some amazing war stories! The owner’s son ran the place; Mr Maclejewski. His dad was in the RAF, a pilot in 308 squadron.
(Note: 308 Squadron was a Polish squadron of Hurricanes and then they converted to Spitfires in March 1941 flying out of RAF Northholt).
Bagington, end of 1940. Pilots of the early 308.
Front row P/O F. Szyszka (left); P/O Wandzilak; F/Lt Jasionowski; F/Lt Wiorkiewicz and P/O Kawnik; middle row: P/O Maclejewski; F/O Grudzinski; P/O Koczor; Sgt Kowala and unkown; back row: F/O Wielgus; unkown; Sgt Majchrzyk; unkown and unkown. Photo courtesy of Piotr Sikora.
6. Were there any other factories owned or run by MacNeill Press?
Not that I was aware of but the same Maclejewski family did own SFI (Sound For Industry) the flexi 45 single maker, it was in the building behind the print works. They made most of the flexi disks in magazines or promos. The reception and offices in the building over the road from the factory used to be some kind of debtors’ holding jail before they were sent to trial.
7. Why and when did you leave?
I came out of my apprentice ship in June 1977. In my last apprentice year I was on £23 a week and after that was on £35-£40 per week as a qualified printer. I heard there was a job at Bradbury Wilkinsons the stamp and banknote security printers in New Malden going and my mum and aunt worked there. So I applied and got the job. I started on £65 on day work, that then went up to £85 on double day shift, which was a huge increase in the 70s.
So I left MacNeills in September 1977. Mr Maclejewski asked me to his office and was not impressed that I was leaving as they had ‘invested’ in me! One of the only times he ever spoke to me.
As with most things back in the day it was the smells, sights and people that you remember the most and boy, did it smell! Who would think that Rick Stein has a flat and a restaurant in Bermondsey Street, how trendy is that!
I also remember kids trying to steal album covers from the factory and being chased away!
8. What were the working conditions like?
I was an Apprentice Lithographic Printer, which meant I did most things like make the tea, sweep the floor, ink in the plates, get the rolls and food, collect the printers’ winnings from the bookies (which was not clever as all the Dockers had hooks on their belts and used to try and get you and steal the money from you!)
I then went on the printing presses and ended up as a machine minder. The ‘top’ people in the factory were the two compositors, they always had clean overalls on and wore a tie. They were both Polish. One was called Carl, a very gentle old man (or he seemed it then). He once told me how he had seen all his family shot by the Russians and was then captured by the Germans but escaped.
There was around 30 people worked in the factory. The conditions were dreadful. Health and safety would have a field day today! The noise was deafening (I am very deaf now!) All the chemicals we used to clean the ink off the blankets are now banned and carcinogenic!
One was MEK, very nasty and you could pass out using it. (Methyl Ethyl Ketone, also known as Butanone is a colorless liquid solvent with an acetone-like odor. It is volatile and potentially explosive. It is an irritant, causing irritation to the eyes and nose. Its main uses are in the manufacture of a number of resins, waxes, and coatings, as well as a general industrial solvent for nitrocellulose coating, vinyl film, and smokeless powder manufacture)
I used to hand mix carbolic acid to etch printing plates, no gloves or goggles (I also used this to clean ink off my hands!). We used gum Arabic to gum up the printing plates that I had to mix up and sometimes it was like lumps of gum off the trees! I used to have to go over the road to collect plates and they had arc lights that were just two sticks of carbon with electricity going through them, the fittings did not have shields and if I close my eyes I can still see the arc!
The place was in a poor state of repair and if the lift broke, which it often did, they used to call in a Polish guy called Leon, who was a huge man about 5ft 4 tall and 5ft wide, his arms were massive. He would carry ¼ pallet loads of card up the stairs for the presses; he spoke very little English but was keen to tell me how many ‘Germanski’ he killed with his bare hands, making all the hand movements!
There were lots of rats, as big as cats some of them! They came in from the docks and were not scared of you at all. The rat catchers used to wear thick brass neck chains and wrist chains, because they said if they fell into an old barge where the rats were they would never get out alive and chains was all that would be left of them!
9. What were the social conditions like in the 1970s? Were there strikes? Power cuts? Oil crisis problems? 3 day weeks?
We were in the NGA union, so I think we did strike a few times but I can’t remember specifics. There were regular power cuts! Yep had my fuel vouchers. And there was the nuclear war warnings, shelters and the regular siren testing. When the ‘3 day week’ came in we worked 12 hour days for 3 days to keep up, and used to finish and go to the pub!
10. Can you name/describe the presses and talk us through the record sleeve printing process?
We had 4 x Solna 225 2 colour presses, 2 Solna 125 single colour presses, one Thompson Crown and one 1275 multilith. The album sleeves just fitted the Solna machine with very little margin for error. All the larger album sleeves like Yellow Brick Road (6 page double gatefold) were farmed out but still had the Printed by MacNeill’s line on the sleeve.
The process was not really any different from other types of printing except all the machines were set up for card printing (rather than paper), and we used to go through a lot of rubber blankets. If you had card that folded during the print run and you had a ‘cruncher’ that was the end of the blanket!
We’d start with receiving the proofs, plates and art work. Plates were fitted to the machines and set up as per the proofs. We could only print 2 colours at a time so cyan/black first then magenta/yellow. The customer/art consultant/designer or artist was then asked to pass the job and off we went. Some artwork used to come with security guards, the Roger Dean art work was always signed in and out to stop it going missing…! Sometimes a member of the band used to turn up. I know Led Zeppelin did once, in a limo but it was far too dirty and noisy for them!
Print runs were from 200 upwards. Albums like James Last (any one), Crazy Horses by the Osmond’s or Puppy Love seemed to be always on the presses. We did a lot of short run for the opera market too. Plus reprints sometimes of albums from the 1960’s. I remember Elvis and the Blue Hawaii Album being reprinted.
Once printed, the flat sheets went down to the letterpress to be cut and then up to the bindery to be folded and glued, where they were boxed up and sent out to the record companies Most of the finishing (folding and glueing) was done in house, but any covers that needed laminating were sent out to a place in Peckham..
11. Tell me more about Led Zeppelin turning up…
I think it was one or two of the band with the usual hangers-on/flunky types. They turned up in a limo in the afternoon, they were all smashed!
There was some arty person too. They were supposed to sign off the Houses Of The Holy sleeve but they didn’t like the colour of the sky on the inner gatefold picture. So, we overprinted a 5th colour to make the sky darker as we couldn’t get it how they wanted with standard 4 colour process.
12. Can you remember any other ‘famous’ sleeves that you worked on? Any of these:
https://rarerecordcollector.net/miscellaneous/polydor-2383-212-pink-fairies/ Yes this was stuck up in the changing room.
https://rarerecordcollector.net/track-record/2406-112-golden-earring/ Yep remember this one as it was quite rude!
Yes, remember this one. I even used this cover as the basis for some art work I did on my course at the London College of Printing.
Yes, ‘Oh Lucky Man’ the film soundtrack by Alan Price was an absolute pig to print due to the amount of ink on the cover. Andy Warhol and the Velvet Underground, they were weird and one of them came in. I think Richie Havens did once too. Not sure if any of the Osmond’s turned up, but I vaguely remember something…but it’s a long time ago!
The Strawbs “Bursting At The Seams” was a nightmare job. It should have had a foil coating on the lettering but it stripped off on the press and we scrapped loads of these. Not many were ever gatefolded and glued. It was a massive pain and we had to work through the night on a reprint to get these out on time.
I did a Velvet Underground one too, and there was a slight problem with the press I was running and the spine ended up out of alignment. I got a bollocking for that one!
I was, and still am a soul man and the James Brown, Curtis Mayfield stuff was great plus we did most of the Stax record label artists. Most of the other guys were not into music but I was and I used to ask for the albums, this was a bit cheeky as I was the lowest of the low. But a great man at MacNeills called Bill Bonner, made sure I got them. I still have some of them albums like, Taking You There (Stax sampler album), William Bell, Phases of Reality, Mavis Staples, Jean Knight and the Dramatics, brilliant stuff!
Many thanks to Paul Gilbert, former record sleeve printer at MacNeill Press Ltd, 1972-1977.
At the end of 2013, the site officially hit 250,000 views (since starting the website in February 2012, but really from around mid 2012 when the bulk of the content and structure really started taking place)…so a huge THANK YOU to everyone who’s found the RareRecordCollector.net website and hopefully found it useful!
Here’s some stats for the geeks (like me) who are fascinated with where the queries come from and what people are interested in:
1. Most views by country:
UK comes 1st with over 53,500 views, followed by Russia, USA, Germany, Ukraine, Italy, France, Sweden, Japan and Portugal is 10th with 7,500 views. Propping up the table with just 1 view each (mustn’t have that much in the way of record collections!) are the Cayman Islands, Aland Islands, Aruba, Nigeria, Panama, Tanzania, Qatar, Nepal, El Salvador and Guadeloupe.
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The most popular record label viewed is Vertigo, followed by Harvest, Charisma, CBS, Purple and Island:
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Led Zeppelin’s albums are what you seem to want to know the most about with Led Zeppelin’s 2nd album (and all it’s variations no doubt!) leading the way – viewed over 3,100 times!
Here are the top 6 most frequently visited albums in order with only Black Sabbath’s 1970 debut breaking Led Zeppelin’s dominance:
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Led Zeppelin dominates once again! With a massive 5,277 views, the post on the multiple label variants for Led Zeppelin’s untitled 4th album easily tops the chart! The next nearest competitor is Led Zeppelin (again) and all the 6 sleeve variants for “In Through The Out Door”.
So it seems that rare record collectors just can’t get enough of their Led Zeppelin! Thanks again to all who’ve used the site and left positive feedback, provided corrections and suggestions and even donated the odd photo of their obscure record rarities! Don’t forget the site is constantly evolving and being updated, so please keep coming back and help spread the word!
Thanks to Jonáš Zdenēk from Prague who’s spotted another Led Zeppelin label variation, this time on the Swan Song “The Song Remains The Same” UK release.
The labels are nearly identical, the publishing credits and band name and album title are positioned differently. Both of these pre-date the later label style which is shown below:
Yet another version of Led Zeppelin II’s label design, this time on the green and orange reissue from the 70s. Thanks to Stuart Carson for supplying this 3rd issue label from 1979; here are the three green and orange reissues in order (click the images to see full size):
Note the copyright statement on the 1st reissue (above left) is within the orange segment. The subsequent two versions extend through the white band and into the green. They also feature the ‘w’ lozenge of Warner Communications Company.
1st and 2nd reissues (left and centre) feature “Made in UK” wording below ‘STEREO’ whilst 3rd reissue (right) features “Manufactured in the UK”. This is consistent with Swan Song labels making the same change from “Made in” to “Manufactured in” sometime in 1979. Swan Song was also manufactured and distributed by Atlantic. The first Swan Song lp to feature this change was SSK59408 Bad Company ‘Desolation Angels’ issued in 1979. So the 3rd reissue is most likely to have been produced around the same time (c. 1979 onwards).
Note also the difference in publishing credits on the 2nd issue and also the track listing denotes “Killing Floor” whilst the 1st and 3rd feature “The Lemon Song”. Side Two of this 3rd reissue also features songwriting credits to ‘Baldwin’, John Paul Jones’ real name, echoing back to earlier red/plum label variations.
Superhype Music appears briefly on the 1st pressing label for Led Zeppelin’s debut album in 1969. And this is what helps identify 1st pressings to ardent Led Zeppelin collectors as the second pressing switched the publishing to Warner Bros. But just who were Superhype Music and where did they go? Here’s a brief summary of the publishing for Led Zeppelin:
LED ZEPPELIN PUBLISHING
Firstly, Superhype Music is the publishing company for self-penned Led Zeppelin songs and appears on the 1st album for a matter of a few weeks and then is replaced by Warner Bros./7 Arts. The cover song of “You Shook Me” was written by Willie Dixon and published by Jewel Music. Superhype does not make any further appearance on another Zeppelin album until the 4th Untitled one in 1971.
Publishing of original Led Zeppelin songs on 2nd and 3rd albums is handled by Warner Bros. Music. Note that this changes to Kinney Music on reissues of Led Zeppelin II and III. (This is because Kinney Music Group acquired the Atlantic label and Warner Bros in late 1970 which is why the previous catalogue numbering system changed to a ‘K’ prefix followed by 5 digits from 1972 onwards).
The 4th Untitled album is published by Kinney Music Ltd AND Superhype. It’s also the last Led Zeppelin album with the old catalogue numbering system and the so-called ‘red/plum’ label.
Despite the Kinney Music acquisition, “Houses Of The Holy” bizarrely goes back to Warner Music AND Superhype.
“Physical Graffiti” is published by JOANELINE MUSIC INC. Which suggests to me an American publishing company.
“Presence”, “In Through The Out Door” and even the previously unreleased original LZ tracks off “Coda” are published by Flames Of Albion Music.
LED ZEPPELIN AND SUPERHYPE MUSIC
I was recently asked a question about the validity of Superhype being used as a means of spotting 1st pressings…here’s the question:
“I’ve always had doubts concerning the order in which the various releases of this album actually appeared (1-Turqouise lettering on cover and Superhype credits on labels; 2-Orange lettering on cover and Warner credits on labels; 3-Orange lettering on cover and Superhype credits on labels).
The Superhype company was created at the end of 1968 and Led Zeppelin allegedly recorded their album in September of the same year. It is much likely that they initially gave the publishing rights to an already existing company like Warner and soon switched them to the newly created Superhype. Otherwise I can’t see the point of songs credited to Superhype, then to Warner and again to Superhype in just a few months.
In my opinion, the original pressing of this album is the one with orange lettering on the cover and the Warner credits; the turquoise lettering cover may well have been produced by mistake or as an intended variation of the design which was not well received and soon switched back to the original colour.
Hope you can give me further details.”
So, with a bit of digging around, here’s what I found.
Superhype Company Limited (now dissolved) was incorporated 22 October 1968 (according to UK Data.com). The registered address was at 91 TABERNACLE ST, LONDON, EC2A 4BA – now the offices of Joan Hudson & Co, Accountants…
Led Zeppelin recorded their debut album over a 4 week period during September and October 1968 at Olympic Sound Studios, London. (117 Church Road, London, SW13 9HL).
Album released 12 January 1969.
Page stated it took 36 hours of studio time recorded over a few weeks at a total cost of £1,782 (which equates to £49.50 per hour, although this was pre-decimalisation, so in reality it would have been £49 and 10 shillings per hour…!) In today’s money, the economic equivalent cost of that recording session would be around £57,000 (taking into account inflation, and other assumed increases in costs, equipment, resources, labour rates etc).
So the timing of the publishing rights assigned to Superhype does make sense…(to answer the initial query above).
With regards to finding a Superhype credited vinyl in an orange lettered sleeve, I think it is more likely to have been swapped or substituted over the years…or simply that once the production run of the turquoise sleeve was halted and replaced with the familiar orange one, any existing vinyls were placed in these new orange sleeves. The Warner credit was then (for some reason) introduced for the second pressing.
WHO WAS ‘SUPERHYPE MUSIC’?
So why did Page, Plant, Bonham, Jones plump for Superhype…what with it being newly incorporated just as their debut album was being finished? The answer is quite simple. Even though Superhype Music is now dissolved as a company, there is another company in existence called Superhype Tapes Limited, the directors are James Patrick Page, born 1944, registered address is 91 Tabernacle Street, London…any of this sounding familiar?!!! …the other directors for Superhype Tapes Limited are Mr Robert Anthony Plant, Mr John Baldwin and Ms Joan Hudson. One would reasonably assume that the other original director of Superhype Music Ltd would have been one John Henry Bonham.
James Patrick Page is also a director of Flames Of Albion Music Limited (along with Baldwin, Plant, Hudson and one Susan Jacqueline Frankland Haile), Jimmy Page.com Ltd, Three P Films Ltd, (directors same as Superhype), Succubus Music Ltd (with Hudson and Haile), United Blag Productions Ltd (directors as Flames Of Albion), Classicberry Ltd (directors as Succubus), The Equinox Book Sellers and Publishers Ltd (with Hudson), Mythgem Ltd (directors as Superhype but also with Mrs Patricia Bonham).
They were also directors of three other companies now dissolved, Cap Ten Limited, C+P Eighty Six Limited and Langwest Limited.
Therefore, it looks like it was Page himself (along with making his band members co-directors) who founded Superhype back in 1968 in order to control his own publishing rights…which, given the future control Peter Grant managed to exercise over record deals, concert promoters, merchandise etc, this would make perfect sense to control as much of the artiste’s output (and also finances) as possible.
This company was founded in August 1961 at 45-51 WHITFIELD STREET, LONDON, W1P 5RJ. It was dissolved 28th August 1990. The company records (including directors etc) have been archived and are no longer freely available. Quite why this was used for “Physical Graffiti” publishing is unknown.
FLAMES OF ALBION
Following the incorporation of Swan Song as a record label to further give Led Zeppelin even more control over their music, they created yet another company – Flames Of Albion Music. Why they didn’t use Superhype any longer is a mystery…
Flames of Albion Music is registered to 91 TABERNACLE STREET, LONDON EC2A 4JN – same as Superhype (see above) – the offices of Joan Hudson, Accountants. Here’s the street view (thanks Google) of the seemingly modest office address of the Led Zeppelin empire…
The never-ending Zeppelin label variations goes on and on…sharp-eyed David from Consett, Co. Durham has spotted on the B side of the ‘Killing Floor’ label that track 2, “Livin’ Lovin’ Maid (She’s A Woman)” has had an extra word added to make the title “Livin’ Lovin’ Maid (She’s Just A Woman)”. But perhaps even more interestingly, the songwriting credits have also been changed to include John Paul Jones real name of ‘Baldwin’…but only on the B side, ‘Jones’ still appears on the A side credited for ‘Whole Lotta Love’…I feel an entire book might be coming on just for Led Zepp labels!